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Shauna
Harrison: 00:00 Welcome
to Bunny Trails, a whimsical adventure of idioms and other turns of phrase. I'm
Shauna Harrison.
Dan
Pugh: 00:05 And
I'm Dan Pugh. Each week we delve into the origin and history of an idiom or
other turn of phrase and discuss how it's been used over time. This week is our
69th episode.
Dan
Pugh: 00:16 So
we're going to talk about six different phrases with the word nine in them.
First up, have you ever heard the phrase dressed to the nines?
Dan
Pugh: 00:25 All
right. Dress to the nines is actually a relatively recent occurrence. Uh, the
first time we see the phrase dressed to the nines in print is in 1837 but it
actually comes from a much earlier phrase. First I want to talk about some of
the things that are not true about this phrase, but I hate, I hate when like
podcasts do this kind of stuff and then they pitch it like it's real, but at
the end they're like, it's not real.
Dan
Pugh: 00:52 And
I, and I know we've done that before too, and I listen to those episodes and I
cringe because I'm like, no, don't like people are listening to learn. You
can't fake them out like that. So there are many options online that claim how
dressed to the nines came about. Some claimed it had to do with a mishearing of
dress to the eyes or maybe even a miss printing of dress to the eyes.
Dan
Pugh: 01:15 right.
Yes. With the whole, the concept of like I seen thing and so yeah. That's kind
of an interesting concept really though. Yes. But it's not true. Some claim it
has to do with the nine yards of fabric supposedly needed to make a certain
kind of suit. So not at all true. Also, probably not the origins of whole nine
yards, but that's something we'll do at another time.
Shauna
Harrison: 01:41 Nine
yards is a lot of fabric guys. Yeah. If you've never tried to make anything
that'd be quite the suit.
Dan
Pugh: 01:47 Uh,
others claim it has to do with the concept of a specific British regiment in
the 18 hundreds who were said to be very well dressed. This one's actually a
very persistent one, but no,
Shauna
Harrison: 01:58 it's
really appealing because you think about like the ninth regiment or something.
Dan
Pugh: 02:08 Oh
yeah, no, well, things on the internet often are, that's why they're so people
need them so much, but the truth is likely not. Any of these. Instead we're
going to turn to the most likely source, the predecessor phrase to the nines or
up to the nines. Okay. Not only is this the most likely origin from our
research, the research that I did on this episode, but it's also where the OED
thinks it comes from and I really want to have my ducks in a row so to speak,
before I tell the Oxford English dictionary that their researchers are wrong
about the origin of a thing.
Dan
Pugh: 02:38 They've
got some experiences just a little bit. So, and they don't make a massive
claim, but they do put dress to the nines as part of up to the nines or to the
nines as that. That entry to the nines means to perfection. Uh Oh wait, I
should, I should say dressed to the nines means dressed really nicely. Like as,
as you can, I don't know how I forgot that. It's like this isn't almost 70
episodes in somehow dressed to the nines specifically according to the Oxford
English dictionary is dressed very elaborately or smartly. And then up to the
nines means according to the Oxford English dictionary to perfection to the
highest degree or point. And in later use, it was chiefly used as dressed to
the nines. So their assertion is that we went from to the nines or up to the
nines and then that transition to dress to the nines. So it was a phrase that
meant perfection in some ways and then was dwindled down a bit to mean just
perfection in the way you dress.
Shauna
Harrison: 03:38 Gotcha.
So we'll say too that, um, smartly, if you're dressed smartly, that that's kind
of the, not necessarily trendy but fashionable, very clean and well dressed. So
it, that one's kind of a little pocket terms smartly is.
Dan
Pugh: 03:52 So
the first time we see to the nines in print was in the 1700, somewhere around
1719. And this was in the familiar epistles written by Alan Ramsey and William
Hamilton. And these were their back and forth conversations. And in one of
these Hamilton said how to the nines did they content me? And that's the first
time we saw it in print, but we know it was likely used before that because it
was a phrase that they used there that was not questioned in any way, shape or
form. We see it again in 1787 and the independent Gazzeteer *Shauna and Dan trying
to figure out how to pronounce this word*. So the independent Gazette, but like
a person who was gazetted as a tier Gazeteer, I have no idea how to say that
word actually, now that I think about it,
Shauna
Harrison: 04:41 I
feel like it's still have to be Gazette. Right. You've got to like get the
emphasis Gazeteer,
Dan
Pugh: 04:46 sure.
Like Mouseketeer or Rocketeer, right. Gazeteer all right. We do a word podcast.
Dan
Pugh: 04:58 So
1787 out of Philadelphia, this is the March 24th edition. Last Saturday, one of
those notorious villains dressed in his lace cloths and patterned to the nines
went onboard of a brig. Bound for Caliias. That's very interesting. Another
example from this, because we are doing six phrases that have the word nines in
them, so I don't want to spend like the whole episode on, on to the nines here,
but in the Herald out of New York, and this was the uh, March 11th edition,
1837, one evening, a smart young mechanic dressed to the nines as Ben Bolen
says, might've been seen wending his way along Broadway. So this was my example
when I said the first time that we saw it was in 1837, this was it. And they
did have dressed to the nines in quotations. So it may not have been the, it
may not have been a well known phrase. People would have known to the nines,
but dressed to the nines might have been slightly different.
Shauna
Harrison: 05:58 put
it in quotations or it's not quotation, it's just a single, um, it's like the
apostrophe thing. If it's on either side, Oh my goodness. I feel like, okay,
maybe I just feel like somehow I failed all of my English classes in this one
shot.
Dan
Pugh: 06:16 Well,
they also attribute it to a person specifically and say as a person says, so
Ben Bowline so or Bowline I don't know. I don't, there's a lot of things I
don't seem to know today.
New
Speaker: 06:26 Oh
no, we're in trouble. Okay. But can I, I'm just, I know we don't like to do
this, but I'm going to step backwards to your 1787. Can I say we still love
villains who are like dressed all fancily and stuff.
Dan
Pugh: 06:39 Maybe
if you go to a melodrama, but what, give me, give me any other recent example.
That's not a melodrama.
Shauna
Harrison: 06:53 Oh,
come on. Okay, fine. any marvel movie. Marvel. C'mon. Um, what's her name? The
at the end. Ragnarok. You know, total villain love. Yeah.
Dan
Pugh: 07:05 Yeah.
She was well dressed, but then there's dr. Strange who's equally well dressed.
That's true. I'm not saying we don't like good, well dressed. Good guys. I'm
just saying that you'd like villains, you know, being dressed as sharply Dracula.
Come on. It's like a long standing thing.
Dan
Pugh: 07:19 Okay,
Dracula pretty much a melodrama, but I will acquiesce to your point about the
Marvel movies. All right. I'm going to move forward in time if you don't mind.
Is there any other backwards in time you would like to do? Maybe to go back
into, I don't know, the 1400s
Dan
Pugh: 07:42 All
right. In the hand of Ethel Berta and 1876 Hardy says when she's dressed up to
the nines for some grand party talking about this, talking about this lady that
he sees that likes to go out and party. She's kind of a, there was a word I was
going to use for this that has escaped me. That ends an EIT. Socialeit. Thank
you. That's it. Yes. But we also see that still, even today. So, so this, this
kind of a concept in the, uh, career out of Dundee. This was 2001 the 27 July
edition dressed to the nines in a morning suit and top hat. He was hired by the
tourist office to distribute leaflets. So we still, we still continue to use
that, that phrase, you know, in the modern era,
Shauna
Harrison: 08:22 I
would think so. I always think of like F Scott Fitzgerald. Like that's what I
imagined. Dressed to the nines, you know, Gatsby style. Yeah. Like just really
not quite. Yeah. I actually, there was a recent, like just a couple of nights
ago, a bunch of my friends in the area went to this inspire ball, which is a
non nonprofit organizations fundraiser for the year.
Dan
Pugh: 08:47 And
is there anything in green lights? No. Okay. I don't know. It was a Holden
Caulfield thing. What does this have to do with great Gatsby?
Shauna
Harrison: 08:55 No,
no, no, no, no. But that was like the total over the Lake. Very much formal
dress to the nines, but like absolute formal wear. And so, you know, people are
in like sequined suits and it just awesome. I love it. It's not a thing that
happens in the middle of Kansas very often. So like military balls and
Dan
Pugh: 09:20 next
up is by the nine and by the nine is a phrase that would be said about, um,
well, I bet a, a variety of different things, but by the nine would be almost
like an annex climatory statement. Like, Oh my goodness. Or by the nine, like
an interjection. Yes, exactly. Like an interjection. Yes. So this interjection
or exclamatory statement comes, um, how has this origins in a variety of
different ways, and there are many different origin stories for this and they
all come from mythology in different parts of the world. Okay. So the first
I'll talk about is the nine muses. And this is, um, something that we see in,
uh, in classic mythology. And I'll just talk about we see this as early as the
14 hundreds in, in English or English predecessors, but I'll just give one
example from 1635. And Francis corals emblems, Tis not the sacred wealth of all
the nine can buy my heart from him. So in this case, it's of all the nine
meaning like, Oh, this large group of people, not so much an interjection in
this case, but we see it used as interjections. We also see it used here in
this type of a thing where it's by, by the nine got the wealth of all the nine
as a point that have been moved into moving into a realm of perfection.
Shauna
Harrison: 10:39 That's
kind of cool. Also nine is a perfect square. So three times three is nine.
That's cool. Yeah, I like numbers. There's a whole bunch of numbers stuff he
could do with nine, but it probably would not be as interesting to everyone.
It's to me, I love it. Okay, so nine times nine is 81 and eight plus one is
nine, which is cool, right? You could just keep going and I'm just saying like
you can do all kinds of cool stuff with the number nine.
Shauna
Harrison: 11:23 Hey
dad jokes in my thing. All right. So one other example of this, uh, talking
about the nine from the muse perspectives and Rudyard Kipling's for, it was
from Rudyard Kipling in narco. He wrote in the times February 23rd, 1933. He
called the obedient Nine to aid The varied chase. And Clio kissed. So when he
was an example from, uh, Joe James, Joyce and Ulysses, 1922 plaster figures,
also naked representing the new nine muses, commerce, operatic, armor publicity
manufacturer, Liberty of speech, plural voting, astronomy, private hygiene,
seaside concert entertainments, painless obstetrics and astronomy for the
people. I love that because these are supposed to be the new nine muses. So
the, you know, there, there are a variety of, of muses in the past. So in 1884,
uh, in Dorothy Forester, it has been held that from Venus are born, the nine
muses who are in fact poetry, music, dancing, acting, gallantry, courtesy,
politeness, courtship, and intrigue and not Talia and her sisters at all.
Unless they can be proved to have those attributes.
Shauna
Harrison: 12:34 Yeah.
See, that's like classic art right there. I'm going to tell ya that painless
obstetrics is a pretty decent thing too, you know? Yeah. Let's keep that
around.
Dan
Pugh: 12:48 And
then there's also an entry about the nine worthies. So these are nine famous
men drawn as exemplaries from biblical, classical, and medieval history. And
legend in Scottish, it was called the nine Nobles. Uh, and this number is
supposedly according to the Oxford English dictionary composed of three Jews,
Joshua, David, and Judas. Not Iscariot, but, uh, Maccabeus three pagans, Hector
Alexander and Julius Caesar, and three Christians, Arthur, Charlemange and
Godfrey of Bullion.
Shauna
Harrison: 13:20 Oh,
that's cool. Yeah. There's another important nine that you haven't mentioned.
Yeah, yeah. I'm like, Lord of the rings. Oh, right. Yeah. I mean like they
saved the whole world.
Dan
Pugh: 13:32 Yes.
I think that Tolkien was going for allusion. I'm just saying that group to be
an allusions in itself.
Shauna
Harrison: 13:40 You
know, he did what these other people didn't and he made it cannon. So I'm just
saying,
Dan
Pugh: 13:46 fair
enough. I like by the nines or of the nines because it, it reminds me a lot of,
one of my favorite elder scrolls games, which is Skyrim. And in there, there
are nine divines. This is of course, an allusion to the nine muses in this
groups. Um, and you can hear the NPCs saying things like by the nine, uh, you
know, by, you know, as a, as a point of reverence or as a point of exclamation.
So it's very, it's very entertaining.
Shauna
Harrison: 14:15 I
feel like that's when you could just walk around and use that introduction by
the nine and people would not be sure because I like hadn't really heard it. I
think I've read it and stuff, but didn't really make the connection.
Dan
Pugh: 14:26 Sure.
So next up is nine days. Wonder, this is the phrase I'd never heard before, but
nine days or also nine nights and then specifically oftentimes used with the,
with nine days wonder nine nights, wonder, uh, is the brief time for which a
novelty is supposed to attract attention.
Dan
Pugh: 14:46 well.
And it's a, it's a, it's a more rare thing to hear these days. Uh, but we use
things like 15 minutes of fame. Andy Warhol kind of coined that, but this would
be like a predecessor to that nine days. Wonder. And if you imagine the speed
with which in Warhols time the world was moving compared to the speed with
which nine days, wonder would have been moving where we first saw the test in
the 13 hundreds there is a drastic nine days wonder might be the original 15
minutes of fame. Awesome. So as I mentioned, we first saw this in the 13
hundreds. I'm going to use an example from the late 13 hundreds in a one that
we've used numerous times in Chaucer's Troilus and Chryssiad a wonder lasts but
nine nights never in town. We see it continue in many other examples like in
Heyward's province of the English tongue and the fifth in 1546, this wonder lasted
nine days in Lilly's Ephesus, the greatest wonder lasteth but nine days.
Dan
Pugh: 15:43 So
we see this used over and over again and I think the popularity of it probably
really hit and it had been used it, a lot of people saw it, but I think it
probably spread in popularity with Chaucer. And then, uh, again, with even
growing more with Shakespeare, who in as you like it said, I was seven of the
nine days out of wonder before you came. So we definitely see this nine days
wonder used throughout. Uh, and it stayed popular until probably like the late
18 hundreds. Um, I do want to use a bonus thing here. Uh, in the 1811
dictionary, vulgar tongue, I saw that there was a definition called Kemp's
Morris and William Kemp said to have been the original dogberry in much ado
about nothing. Danced a Morris from London to Norwich in nine days of which he
printed the account.
Dan
Pugh: 16:33 Kemp's
nine days of wonder, huh? Right. It is a whole lot of stuff. So you've got this
camp and they've danced a Morris was a type of dance at the time. Dance a
morris wasn't a phrase. They were literally saying they danced. The morris
dance from there. Uh, and so they, but they had a phrase from this phrase,
which is Kemp's Morris, uh, which came from, uh, the printed account Kemps,
nine days of wonder, which was very interesting. Two last ones from here in
1897 and Bram Stoker's Dracula, they said as the matter is to be a nine days
wonder, they are evidently determined that there shall be no cause of after
complaint. The January 9th, 1912 edition of the day book out of Chicago,
Illinois, captain Adams side winds declared the referee and Ms. Virginia Lee is
the champion speller of Bradford. The announcement was nine days wonder, but
the announcement of the Lee Porter engagement three months later was a 90 and
nine days wonder and I love that because it takes that natural seven in 70
days, nine and 90 days and and you know, adds to that to show the, the
improvement in how, yes it was a nine days wonder in this case, but then
something better came along and so they use the 99 and nine or 90 and nine
Shauna
Harrison: 17:50 yeah,
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Dan
Pugh: 18:47 next
up, we have nine ways or also nine ways at once, and that means according to
the Oxford English dictionary, a squint or askew in all directions. So this is,
this is rare now, but it's something that we, we used to see starting in the 15
hundreds and we saw this in Erasmus’ Apophthegmes. Squinted he was and looked
nine ways.
Dan
Pugh: 19:13 squint
and askew Yes. So it was basically looking all uh, cockamamie, you know, I mean
if you are looking at different, different, different ways, what can I not say
that word? Is that word bad?
Shauna
Harrison: 19:25 It's
like, I don't think it's a word that is it. Well, people know what that means.
Dan
Pugh: 19:29 I
don't know. I hope so. It has nothing to do with the number of our episode. I
trust. Trust me on that. So we see it in Richard the second passion fly,
squinting, and as we say, nine ways a thrice. So in this case instead of nine
ways at once it was nine ways of thrice. We also see it in Don Quixote. I see
you bounce your head full butt against the stones and made them fly nine ways
at once.
Dan
Pugh: 19:51 Also
in the, I want to use a another much like we did earlier, a example from the
1811 book of vulgar tongues by Francis grosse squint-a-pipes a squinty man or
woman said to be born in the middle of the week and looking both ways for
Sunday or born in a Hackney coach and looking out both windows fit for a cook,
one eye in the pot and the other up the chimney looking nine ways at once. So
this one now is talking to someone specifically who's kind of like, my eyes do,
don't always look at the same way at the same time. And uh, in this case
they're making fun of someone's appearance. Now this is of course, this is why
it's in the dictionary of vulgar tounges. Cause it's not very nice in a newspaper,
in a dictionary wouldn't have printed this, but squint-a-pipes was the word
they used and they used nine ways at once to help, right? It's, you know, the
languages weird. We also see in the 1847, uh, April edition of the North
American review, an uncommon operation, she performed upon the chairman of one
of the committees that of making him look nine ways at once a compound
strabismus of singular pathological interest we can barely allude to. Wow. And
they did barely.
Dan
Pugh: 21:09 And
in this case w- the, the concept is that um, that basically this person,
whoever she was, uh, basically made the chairman so confused that they were
askew in and, and just confused all over. Like I had no idea what was going on.
Now running nine ways at once. Uh, last I want to use is, is a more recent
version. This is from 1993. It's a Hayden Carruth poem The Child published in the
1993 work Collected Longer Poems Otherwise considered being is a force More or
less well directed Cometh the child exploded running nine ways at once an egg
dropped a cup spilled a universe erupting hell on wheels.
Shauna
Harrison: 21:56 I
like it. That's fun. I've heard like nine ways to Sunday or something. Is that
okay?
Dan
Pugh: 22:02 Yeah.
That's also comes from the same, the same root. Gotcha. Cool. Yeah. Nine ways.
Nine ways to Sunday is, is, is one that I had heard and that was what I was
looking for when I found, I found this one cool. There's also nine times out of
10, which is, uh, a very common thing. It means that the great majority of
times, uh, in, when it is being used in its figurative sense, uh, of course in
its literal sense, it means nine out of 10 times, but it is oftentimes used now
figuratively just to say a majority of the time, or in almost all the cases,
and we see this today all like, you can't see a dentist commercial or
toothpaste commercial or something without nine out of 10 dentists, you know,
or whatever.
Dan
Pugh: 22:45 Yeah.
Nine times out of 10, right. It doesn't actually mean 90% of the times or, or
you did it 10 times and nine of those times. Right. It does not mean that it
means nine w- and it's a lot like the word decimate, which means attempt to
destroy, attempt. So decimate. Now we mean like completely to destroy, right?
It means to destroy a 10th of something. So it doesn't, it doesn't exactly work
now, but nine times out of 10 is, is much the same.
Shauna
Harrison: 23:13 Yeah.
I could see if you, if you destroyed a 10th of your house, you know, like that,
it feel pretty ruined. So that's why the decimated, I think. Yeah,
Dan
Pugh: 23:22 sure.
And there's, and there's a, there's a line in world war Z that talks about that
for Brooks I think is who wrote that. And this is not a, this is not a notes
that I wrote. So, uh, but you brought it up and there's, there's a point in
which they, they highlight that, that one of the Army's was uncomfortable doing
something that they'd been asked and they were, were decimated. And, and the
writer points out that this, you know, most people think decimated is this, but
I'm using the literal word. They came in and killed a 10th of our people in
front of us. And that was the, and they were making a point. And so, you know,
in that kind of a thing, yeah, attempt can be incredibly devastating. So I get
where the concept of a 10th of something being destroyed as decimate could turn
into so much destruction or total destruction much in the way nine times out of
10 has done when we mean a great majority, cause it does mean a majority, 90%
is a majority.
Dan
Pugh: 24:19 But,
uh, now we don't really mean 90% when we say that we mean most of the time or
almost all the time. The first time we saw this in print was in 1648, uh, by
Henry Parker in of free trade in my Lord Cooke's opinion, nine parts of 10 of
all of our English staple commodities are such as we shear from the sheep's
back. So in this case, he's not actually using, he's not saying it's actually
nine parts of the 10, but like the most of the time. And we see that throughout
the 16 hundreds and 17 hundreds. There are lots of examples of it. Like in, in
1987 in, uh, Kaczynski's Northern witchcraft. When humans contract the disease,
nine times out of 10, it is from an infected rabbit or Hare. All right, so
let's wrap this up. We've got one more big one I want to talk about and that's
nine lives.
Dan
Pugh: 25:10 Okay.
So nine lives is the number of lives proverbially allotted to a cat, right? So
I think most people have heard of nine lives in this, in this thing. Uh, and,
and we see that, uh, the first time we see it, atested in print is in a
dialogue of Proverbs and the English tongue by Heywood. And, and in this case
they're saying it's already a thing that's been said. That's how it ended up in
Proverbs. Right? A woman, hath nine lives like a cat. So, and there was a lot,
I did see a lot of, of women have nine lives. Things are women, have 10 lives
or whatever in here. Uh, I'm not quite sure what all of that allusion was to
what I, what I found, uh, made me believe that they intended that. Um, much
like the old style of humor where a married couple, a man would put down the
wife, you know, like till death do us part was a goal, not a, not a promise,
you know, kind of thing.
Dan
Pugh: 26:07 That
kind of really crappy humor. Um, I a lot of that, that's a, that's got an old
that's got a old history, which is probably why it persists so much. Oh, we
also see it in beware cat by William Baldwin. This is 1563. I really liked this
one because it takes a different turn on it. And in this case, uh, he's
talking, I don't want to say I don't like the concept of like killing people,
but he's talking about killing witches. Right. And there've hath come, the
proverb as true as common that a cat have nine lives. That is to say, a witch
may take on a cat's body nine times in this. He's making the case that if you
kill the cat, which, which is a witch, so the, which has taken the form of the
cat and if you kill the cat while the, witch has taken its form, the, witch can
still take the form of a cat eight more times, so you're not killing the, which
when you do that, stop doing that. Well, I don't think he's saying stop doing
that. Keep doing it. Probably do more. Right. Yeah, that's, that's crazy to me.
I of course, do not at all condone the killing of uh, witches or cats for that
matter.
Shauna
Harrison: 27:18 Yeah,
not really my thing here. Um, cats are like the familiar, common familiar for
witches to consider it to be. Yeah. So that's kind of probably that connection
Dan
Pugh: 27:29 we
did. We have talked about that in an earlier episode. That's where that
connection likely comes from. Also saw it and Romeo and Juliet. I think a lot
of people would have heard about it. There where Tybalt says “ What wouldst
though have of me” Mercutio replies “Nothing King of Cats, but borrow one of
your nine lives” I like this one from a William Kings, the toast and heroic
poem in four books. They must pronounce it differently cause it's an and then
heroic. This is from 1747 but the hero, well, judging that masculine wives
often rise from the dead and light. Cats have nine lives. I know. All right.
I'm going to read another definition from a 1811s dictionary of vulgar tongues.
And this one is for cat's foot. They have two definitions. I'm going to read
the second one. As many lives as a cat, cats according to vulgar, naturalists
have nine lives. That is one less than a woman. No more chance than a cat in hell
without clause set of one who enters into a dispute or quarrel with one greatly
above his match. Oh my goodness. old Timey people are weird. I'm sure they'll
say that about us too though. That's funny. Yeah, they probably will. There is
a, a couple of other examples. Um, 1879 Scribner's monthly. This was the April
edition. The cat after a long fast was taken out with three of his nine lives
apparently intact. And then one last, uh, one last point from a Frank bomb in
marvelous land of oz, 1904, I had the good fortune to save the ninth life of a
Tailor Tailor's having like cats nine lives.
Shauna
Harrison: 29:08 Nice.
Thank you. Thank you sir. Gross for all of your material for today's episode,
Dan
Pugh: 29:13 right.
Well I'm sure you noticed that we didn't mention a one, but it seems obvious
and I alluded to it early on, the whole nine yards. This one deserves its own
episode because to quote Yale university library and Fred Shapiro, it is the,
this is this quote, the most prominent etymological riddle of our time. So you
will have to wait until next season for that one. Uh, but we have started the
research on it cliffhanger. I'm not sure that we're going to add more to the
conversation than is already out there, but maybe we can bring all the points
of that conversation into one central spot so you can get a 30 minute episode
next, next in 2020. Well that about wraps us up for today. Thank you so much
for joining us. We've only got a few more episodes left in 2019 and that season
two of our show. So thank you so much to everyone for listening and supporting
the show. And then, uh, we will take a break in December, uh, towards the end
of December over the Christmas and new year's holidays and then be back in
January with season three.
Shauna
Harrison: 30:15 Yes,
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Thanks again for joining us and we'll talk to you again next week. Until then,
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